Oscar de la Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao - 6/12/08 - HBO PPV - FightGame Boxing & MMA Forums News & Discussion

**NFFC** · 08-27-2008, 06:51 PM

Who wins? Discuss the fight and news about the fight in this thread.

**NFFC** · 08-27-2008, 06:52 PM

Poll added.

RMAcero722 · 08-27-2008, 08:38 PM

Pacquiao UD. I know, I am crazy. You guys can flame me now, but please, no red K.

**T-97** · 08-28-2008, 11:31 AM

De La Hoya by KO probably.

But....Lets go Manny! War Pac man!

**TommyGunn** · 08-28-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMAcero722

Pacquiao UD. I know, I am crazy. You guys can flame me now, but please, no red K.

Thats a brave pick Roland but inless Oscar has slipped i cant see anything but a KO win for him.

**NFFC** · 08-28-2008, 05:56 PM

By Rick Reeno
Moments ago, it was formerly announced that former six-division champion Oscar De La Hoya (39-5, 30KOs) will be facing WBC lightweight champion Manny Pacquiao (47-3, 35KOs) on December 6 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Pacquiao will make a twelve-pound jump to the agreed upon fight-weight of 147-pounds. The two sides have agreed to use eight-ounce gloves. The event will be carried by HBO pay-per-view.

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer said this was the one fight that had people talking when they were sizing up all of the opponents.

"Many opponents have been mentioned. There was only one fight that had people talking. Everyone has an opinion one way or another about this matchup. This fight will transcend the sport. This fight will be a fight between two superstars,” Schaefer said. “Two fighters who have captured the imagination of the people. The two most popular fighters in the world. Both guys go forward and don’t know how to go back."

"One is bigger and older, the other is younger and the pound for pound champion. Will it be youth and speed or size and skill. This is a dream matchup, Oscar De La Hoya against the young, reigning pound-for-pound king, Manny Pacquiao.”

Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, said he was thrilled with the fight and feels the event will have global implications.

“I'm thrilled that this fight is taking place. I'll be been involved in many great fights, but this one has world wide implications. An American Olympian, the greatest athlete to ever come out of the Philippines,” Arum said.

“The Filipinos are a great fighting people and Manny Pacquiao is their greatest fighter of all. This fight will be watched and talked about all over Asia, Europe and all over North and South America. This is what boxing is all about. This fight will demonstrate to everyone that no sport universally is more popular than boxing.”

De La Hoya says the fight is a challenge and he considers it a "personal" fight because of the Mexican legends that Pacquiao beat. He doesn’t believe the difference in size and weight will be as big a factor as many people think.

“To me this fight is a challenge. Yes I’m older and I’m bigger. Yes he’s younger and the pound-for-pound champion. When Freddie Roach started saying Manny Pacquiao the fighter I train can beat you, it started to become a challenge to me,” De La Hoya said.

“It’s become very personal to me when Manny Pacquiao beats all of the legendary fighters from Mexico it’s a challenge. People are talking that Manny Pacquiao can beat me, well - we'll see on December 6."

"People will see, there won’t be that much of a size difference when we are standing next to each other. It wont be like Roy Jones against John Ruiz. This really is a big challenge to me.”

Pacquiao made a bold prediction, that he would beat De La Hoya in the fashion as he did David Diaz back in June to capture the WBC title at 135. He believes his speed will the main factor to achieve victory. He doesn’t believe De La Hoya is the stronger man.
“This fight, I know everybody thought this will be a difficult fight for me. I know some people say that it’s a very easy fight for Oscar, but you know what - I always do my job in the ring and do my best to give a good fight and I think I can beat De La Hoya,” Pacquiao said.

“I think I am faster and stronger than him and I’m younger and also I think that I can beat him in the way that I beat Diaz in the last fight. I think the point is - my speed is going to win this fight. Oscar De La Hoya has the advantage in height, he’s taller than me, but I believe that I am stronger than him. It’s going to be a great fight on December 6.”

For weeks, there were a lot of back and forth negotiations over the revenue split. The fight almost fell apart when De La Hoya stood firm on a 70-30 split and Pacquiao wanted a 60-40 split. There was no comment by either side as the final split number.
“Manny has asked me not to talk the numbers, purses or any of the financial elements at this particular point,” Arum said.
The biggest news, other than the fight being announced, was De La Hoya’s reluctance to call this the final fight of his career. For months De La Hoya has called the December bout his career finale -but when asked several times about whether or not he will retire at the end of the year - Oscar said that he won’t make a decision on retirement until the Pacquiao fight is over. He wants to see how he does in the ring, how he feels, and then will get together with his team to decide if there are more fights in store for his career.

“We’ll see after the fight on how I feel if this fight will be my last fight or not. Let’s just say my foot got caught in the door,” De La Hoya said.

**NFFC** · 08-28-2008, 05:56 PM

By Mark Vester

A previously reported on BoxingScene.com, Oscar De La Hoya (39-5, 30KOs) refused to label his Dec. 6 bout with WBC lightweight champion Manny Pacquiao (47-3, 35KOs) as the final fight of his career. De La Hoya doesn't want any decision until after the fight is over, and based on De La Hoya's history - it means more mega-fights are in store.

“We’ll see after the fight on how I feel if this fight will be my last fight or not. Let’s just say my foot got caught in the door,” De La Hoya said.

It may be no coincidence that a few days ago, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Golden Boy VP Eric Gomez were discussing potential "future" fights with BoxingScene's James Blears.

Schaefer told Blears that he would like to see De La Hoya fight Ricky Hatton at Wembley Stadium in the UK. Hatton would first have to get past IBF junior welterweight champ Paulie Malignaggi in November. If Hatton wins, he was being positioned for Pacquiao in 09, but if De La Hoya goes through Manny - a Hatton clash would be on the cards.

"A matchup between the two most popular fighters on the planet would be unbelievable, and when I think about places, of course Wembley Stadium comes to mind…or in Mexico the famous Azteca Stadium. These are the dream matchups which might never happen, but I think people are allowed to dream,” Schaefer said.

Gomez on the other hand would like to see Floyd Mayweather Jr. come out of retirement for a De La Hoya rematch.

“I would love it if [Floyd] Mayweather would come out of retirement and Oscar faced him again, because if you see their fight, everyone remembers the result. But it was a close fight which could have gone either way. Mayweather won a split decision," Gomez said." I think Oscar has the tools to beat him. I think he went in there with the wrong strategy. Had he used his jab a little bit more, he would have beat him."

"He was controlling the fight easily for the first six/seven rounds. But he just went away from his game plan. I think that it’s a fight in which Oscar can redeem himself in. Mayweather is considered pound for pound one of the best ever. I feel that Oscar can beat him."

WBA welterweight champ Antonio Margarito has been calling for a De La Hoya fight for the last few weeks. De La Hoya told him to first handle unfinished business with WBO champion Paul Williams. If Margarito handles his business and De La Hoya is still around - would Oscar finally take the challenge?

123tyson123 · 08-28-2008, 08:39 PM

imo this is a miss match, oscars bigger, stronger and better. mannys moving up to 147, will he still have his speed and power at the weight?
oscar will ko manny in 5

mushroom-eater · 10-09-2008, 05:53 AM

If this happened 10 years ago I'd say Manny has no way he can Oscar, but this time is a lot different. I really do believe in Freddie Roach. If he says, Manny can beat Oscar, I'm sure he can.

Raging Bull · 11-02-2008, 02:30 AM

Oscar will be too big and too strong for Manny.

View Poll Results: De la Hoya vs. Pacquiao: Who wins?
De la Hoya TKO/KO	5	50.00%
De la Hoya UD	2	20.00%
De la Hoya SD	0	0%
Pacquiao SD	0	0%
Pacquiao UD	1	10.00%
Pacquiao TKO/KO	2	20.00%
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08-27-2008, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
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RMAcero722 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cali, USA Posts: 464	Re: Oscar de la Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao - 6/12/08 - HBO PPV Pacquiao UD. I know, I am crazy. You guys can flame me now, but please, no red K. __________________

08-28-2008, 05:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
NFFC Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 2,055	The hype has started! By Rick Reeno Moments ago, it was formerly announced that former six-division champion Oscar De La Hoya (39-5, 30KOs) will be facing WBC lightweight champion Manny Pacquiao (47-3, 35KOs) on December 6 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Pacquiao will make a twelve-pound jump to the agreed upon fight-weight of 147-pounds. The two sides have agreed to use eight-ounce gloves. The event will be carried by HBO pay-per-view. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer said this was the one fight that had people talking when they were sizing up all of the opponents. "Many opponents have been mentioned. There was only one fight that had people talking. Everyone has an opinion one way or another about this matchup. This fight will transcend the sport. This fight will be a fight between two superstars,” Schaefer said. “Two fighters who have captured the imagination of the people. The two most popular fighters in the world. Both guys go forward and don’t know how to go back." "One is bigger and older, the other is younger and the pound for pound champion. Will it be youth and speed or size and skill. This is a dream matchup, Oscar De La Hoya against the young, reigning pound-for-pound king, Manny Pacquiao.” Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, said he was thrilled with the fight and feels the event will have global implications. “I'm thrilled that this fight is taking place. I'll be been involved in many great fights, but this one has world wide implications. An American Olympian, the greatest athlete to ever come out of the Philippines,” Arum said. “The Filipinos are a great fighting people and Manny Pacquiao is their greatest fighter of all. This fight will be watched and talked about all over Asia, Europe and all over North and South America. This is what boxing is all about. This fight will demonstrate to everyone that no sport universally is more popular than boxing.” De La Hoya says the fight is a challenge and he considers it a "personal" fight because of the Mexican legends that Pacquiao beat. He doesn’t believe the difference in size and weight will be as big a factor as many people think. “To me this fight is a challenge. Yes I’m older and I’m bigger. Yes he’s younger and the pound-for-pound champion. When Freddie Roach started saying Manny Pacquiao the fighter I train can beat you, it started to become a challenge to me,” De La Hoya said. “It’s become very personal to me when Manny Pacquiao beats all of the legendary fighters from Mexico it’s a challenge. People are talking that Manny Pacquiao can beat me, well - we'll see on December 6." "People will see, there won’t be that much of a size difference when we are standing next to each other. It wont be like Roy Jones against John Ruiz. This really is a big challenge to me.” Pacquiao made a bold prediction, that he would beat De La Hoya in the fashion as he did David Diaz back in June to capture the WBC title at 135. He believes his speed will the main factor to achieve victory. He doesn’t believe De La Hoya is the stronger man. “This fight, I know everybody thought this will be a difficult fight for me. I know some people say that it’s a very easy fight for Oscar, but you know what - I always do my job in the ring and do my best to give a good fight and I think I can beat De La Hoya,” Pacquiao said. “I think I am faster and stronger than him and I’m younger and also I think that I can beat him in the way that I beat Diaz in the last fight. I think the point is - my speed is going to win this fight. Oscar De La Hoya has the advantage in height, he’s taller than me, but I believe that I am stronger than him. It’s going to be a great fight on December 6.” For weeks, there were a lot of back and forth negotiations over the revenue split. The fight almost fell apart when De La Hoya stood firm on a 70-30 split and Pacquiao wanted a 60-40 split. There was no comment by either side as the final split number. “Manny has asked me not to talk the numbers, purses or any of the financial elements at this particular point,” Arum said. The biggest news, other than the fight being announced, was De La Hoya’s reluctance to call this the final fight of his career. For months De La Hoya has called the December bout his career finale -but when asked several times about whether or not he will retire at the end of the year - Oscar said that he won’t make a decision on retirement until the Pacquiao fight is over. He wants to see how he does in the ring, how he feels, and then will get together with his team to decide if there are more fights in store for his career. “We’ll see after the fight on how I feel if this fight will be my last fight or not. Let’s just say my foot got caught in the door,” De La Hoya said. __________________ Oscar De la Hoya: Legend ..

08-28-2008, 05:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
NFFC Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 2,055	De la Hoya likely to fight on By Mark Vester A previously reported on BoxingScene.com, Oscar De La Hoya (39-5, 30KOs) refused to label his Dec. 6 bout with WBC lightweight champion Manny Pacquiao (47-3, 35KOs) as the final fight of his career. De La Hoya doesn't want any decision until after the fight is over, and based on De La Hoya's history - it means more mega-fights are in store. “We’ll see after the fight on how I feel if this fight will be my last fight or not. Let’s just say my foot got caught in the door,” De La Hoya said. It may be no coincidence that a few days ago, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Golden Boy VP Eric Gomez were discussing potential "future" fights with BoxingScene's James Blears. Schaefer told Blears that he would like to see De La Hoya fight Ricky Hatton at Wembley Stadium in the UK. Hatton would first have to get past IBF junior welterweight champ Paulie Malignaggi in November. If Hatton wins, he was being positioned for Pacquiao in 09, but if De La Hoya goes through Manny - a Hatton clash would be on the cards. "A matchup between the two most popular fighters on the planet would be unbelievable, and when I think about places, of course Wembley Stadium comes to mind…or in Mexico the famous Azteca Stadium. These are the dream matchups which might never happen, but I think people are allowed to dream,” Schaefer said. Gomez on the other hand would like to see Floyd Mayweather Jr. come out of retirement for a De La Hoya rematch. “I would love it if [Floyd] Mayweather would come out of retirement and Oscar faced him again, because if you see their fight, everyone remembers the result. But it was a close fight which could have gone either way. Mayweather won a split decision," Gomez said." I think Oscar has the tools to beat him. I think he went in there with the wrong strategy. Had he used his jab a little bit more, he would have beat him." "He was controlling the fight easily for the first six/seven rounds. But he just went away from his game plan. I think that it’s a fight in which Oscar can redeem himself in. Mayweather is considered pound for pound one of the best ever. I feel that Oscar can beat him." WBA welterweight champ Antonio Margarito has been calling for a De La Hoya fight for the last few weeks. De La Hoya told him to first handle unfinished business with WBO champion Paul Williams. If Margarito handles his business and De La Hoya is still around - would Oscar finally take the challenge? __________________ Oscar De la Hoya: Legend ..

08-28-2008, 08:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
123tyson123 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 77	Re: Oscar de la Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao - 6/12/08 - HBO PPV imo this is a miss match, oscars bigger, stronger and better. mannys moving up to 147, will he still have his speed and power at the weight? oscar will ko manny in 5

10-09-2008, 05:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
mushroom-eater Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	Re: Oscar de la Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao - 6/12/08 - HBO PPV If this happened 10 years ago I'd say Manny has no way he can Oscar, but this time is a lot different. I really do believe in Freddie Roach. If he says, Manny can beat Oscar, I'm sure he can. __________________ Best Contact Lens Coupons!

11-02-2008, 02:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Raging Bull Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 11	Re: Oscar de la Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao - 6/12/08 - HBO PPV Oscar will be too big and too strong for Manny.