Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV - Page 4 - FightGame Boxing & MMA Forums News & Discussion

**TommyGunn** · 08-16-2008, 06:09 PM

I learned a long time ago not to write the old man off and vowed never to do so again. This fight will be close, either guy could win.

KOPunch · 08-22-2008, 11:07 AM

Who do you think would win the following fantasy fights:-
http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__nigel_the_dark_destroyer_benn_vs_j oe_calzaghe
CompetitiveUrge - Fantasy boxing: Duran vs 'Pretty Boy' Floyd Mayweather
http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__julio_cesar_chavez_v_ricky_hatton
http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__tommy_hitman_hearns_v_kelly_the_gh ost_pavlik

**TommyGunn** · 08-23-2008, 10:31 PM

Im hearing this fight will be a 10 rounder.

RMAcero722 · 08-24-2008, 05:34 PM

LOL, a PPV card with a 10 round main event. Come on, HBO.

**the_godslayer** · 08-26-2008, 05:39 AM

Kelly Pavlik: "No Surprise if Roy Jones Beats Joe Calzaghe"

As the weeks go by, more and more people are jumping off the Joe Calzaghe boat and picking former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr. to pull off the win on November 8 at New York's Madison Square Garden. WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik holds a big interest in the fight, especially if Calzaghe wins. If he overcomes the challenge of Bernard Hopkins on October 18, and Calzaghe beats Jones - the two of them could end up fighting at some point in 2009.
While he doesn't outright pick Jones to pull off the upset and beat Calzaghe, Pavlik tells Steve Kim of Maxboxing that he wouldn't be surprised if Jones had his hand raised. Business is business, Pavlik will be rooting for Calzaghe to win, despite the fact that Calzaghe has said several times in the last few weeks that he plans to retire after the fight with Jones. He continues to call Jones his final career bout, but also says the possibility of returning for the right fight is not out of the question. Calzaghe has also downplayed Pavlik's challenge in the press, but Pavlik believes that Enzo Calzaghe, Joe's father and trainer, is the real person preventing their fight from happening.
"I want Calzaghe to win, I really do. I just want to fight him. Actually, I want to fight his dad first," Pavlik said. "His dad is doing everything possible to not have that fight happen. But with Calzaghe and Jones nothing is impossible in that fight. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Roy Jones outpointed him. I'm being dead serious in that. I would not be a bit surprised."
"I'm hoping Calzaghe wins and I think he could win, but at the same time, if Calzaghe had a little bit of power with his pressure, then I'd say, 'Y'know what, Jones might end up like he did with Glen Johnson and Tarver,' but I just don't think Calzaghe has enough to really do that to Roy. I think Roy Jones might possibly drop Calzaghe in that fight."
Pavlik told Kim that the beating he gave Gary Lockett in June, another Enzo Calzaghe trained fighter, is probably the reason why Enzo is keeping his son far away.

“I think his dad is in his ear and his dad's still shaking from the beating his fighter took. I think he's still shaking the cobwebs right now. Boxing for him, thank God for Joe, because his dad’s the one who's behind all this - it ain't Joe," Pavlik says. "It's his dad. His dad is running his mouth and flapping away and his dad doesn't know a left hook from a fishing hook."

source - - - Kelly Pavlik: "No Surprise if Roy Jones Beats Joe Calzaghe"

**ulster86** · 10-18-2008, 08:45 PM

I think Hopkins could win this by SD if he doesn't gas like he did against Calzaghe. Pavlik should take this on workrate and determination though. If he drops in those two areas Hopkins wins, without question.

KoolKid · 10-27-2008, 10:51 AM

i noticed you didnt mention Joe Cal should retire or he will be called a journey man. Thats cuz he still has more to prove unlike RJJ and B-hop. He is just as old as RJJ but hasnt come close to accomplishing what he has done. Nor has he fought the great fighters Jones has fought. Which is a shame cuz Joe needs a test but it seems like there arent any shining stars that just jump to mind when you think who would give joe a good fight were he will get respect.
People rubbish joe and say he isn't that good cause he gives them the truth to say that. he needs to fight some light heavyweights and get in the mix of things. then he would gain respect and could silence the doughters but he doesn't do that. He needs to stop fighting old guys who you can't even beat up but just win on work rate. Just when people know who he is, he is ready for retirement. I havent got a problem with Joe but i wont to see more from him. After he fighst Jones his record will only have 3 worthy fighters worth mentioning on there and thats the last three go have a look at Jones or Hopkins record its like a celebrity boxing register. Hopkins says it him self he is under rated he is one f the best a legend of his era but people dont put him in there top 5 or 10. shame on you people ('shaking my head in shame')

KoolKid · 10-27-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by the_godslayer

In a way i actually hope BHop gets KO'd in this fight and that the JC and RJJ fight ends up in a double KO.

TBH im bored of these older fighters now. especially BHop and RJJ ... they bring PAST victories to the table and ring experience but if they keep fighting they will just end up being classed as journey men.
I want to see fresh blood and people like Tavoris Cloud, David Haye etc etc etc .... you know what i mean? young hungry fighters with everything on the line.

i noticed you didnt mention Joe Cal should retire or he will be called a journey man. Thats cuz he still has more to prove unlike RJJ and B-hop. He is just as old as RJJ but hasnt come close to accomplishing what he has done. Nor has he fought the great fighters Jones has fought. Which is a shame cuz Joe needs a test but it seems like there arent any shining stars that just jump to mind when you think who would give joe a good fight were he will get respect.
People rubbish joe and say he isn't that good cause he gives them the truth to say that. he needs to fight some light heavyweights and get in the mix of things. then he would gain respect and could silence the doughters but he doesn't do that. He needs to stop fighting old guys who you can't even beat up but just win on work rate. Just when people know who he is, he is ready for retirement. I havent got a problem with Joe but i wont to see more from him. After he fighst Jones his record will only have 3 worthy fighters worth mentioning on there and thats the last three go have a look at Jones or Hopkins record its like a celebrity boxing register. Hopkins says it him self he is under rated he is one f the best a legend of his era but people dont put him in there top 5 or 10. shame on you people ('shaking my head in shame')

View Poll Results: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - Who wins?
Pavlik TKO/KO	2	33.33%
Pavlik UD	2	33.33%
Pavlik SD	1	16.67%
Hopkins SD	1	16.67%
Hopkins UD	0	0%
Hopkins TKO/KO	0	0%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

08-16-2008, 06:09 PM	#31 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,023	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV I learned a long time ago not to write the old man off and vowed never to do so again. This fight will be close, either guy could win. __________________

08-22-2008, 11:07 AM	#32 (permalink)
KOPunch Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV Who do you think would win the following fantasy fights:- http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__nigel_the_dark_destroyer_benn_vs_j oe_calzaghe CompetitiveUrge - Fantasy boxing: Duran vs 'Pretty Boy' Floyd Mayweather http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__julio_cesar_chavez_v_ricky_hatton http://http://www.competitiveurge.com/fantasy_boxing__tommy_hitman_hearns_v_kelly_the_gh ost_pavlik

08-23-2008, 10:31 PM	#33 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,023	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV Im hearing this fight will be a 10 rounder. __________________

08-24-2008, 05:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
RMAcero722 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cali, USA Posts: 464	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV LOL, a PPV card with a 10 round main event. Come on, HBO. __________________

08-26-2008, 05:39 AM	#35 (permalink)
the_godslayer Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 977	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV Kelly Pavlik: "No Surprise if Roy Jones Beats Joe Calzaghe" As the weeks go by, more and more people are jumping off the Joe Calzaghe boat and picking former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr. to pull off the win on November 8 at New York's Madison Square Garden. WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik holds a big interest in the fight, especially if Calzaghe wins. If he overcomes the challenge of Bernard Hopkins on October 18, and Calzaghe beats Jones - the two of them could end up fighting at some point in 2009. While he doesn't outright pick Jones to pull off the upset and beat Calzaghe, Pavlik tells Steve Kim of Maxboxing that he wouldn't be surprised if Jones had his hand raised. Business is business, Pavlik will be rooting for Calzaghe to win, despite the fact that Calzaghe has said several times in the last few weeks that he plans to retire after the fight with Jones. He continues to call Jones his final career bout, but also says the possibility of returning for the right fight is not out of the question. Calzaghe has also downplayed Pavlik's challenge in the press, but Pavlik believes that Enzo Calzaghe, Joe's father and trainer, is the real person preventing their fight from happening. "I want Calzaghe to win, I really do. I just want to fight him. Actually, I want to fight his dad first," Pavlik said. "His dad is doing everything possible to not have that fight happen. But with Calzaghe and Jones nothing is impossible in that fight. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Roy Jones outpointed him. I'm being dead serious in that. I would not be a bit surprised." "I'm hoping Calzaghe wins and I think he could win, but at the same time, if Calzaghe had a little bit of power with his pressure, then I'd say, 'Y'know what, Jones might end up like he did with Glen Johnson and Tarver,' but I just don't think Calzaghe has enough to really do that to Roy. I think Roy Jones might possibly drop Calzaghe in that fight." Pavlik told Kim that the beating he gave Gary Lockett in June, another Enzo Calzaghe trained fighter, is probably the reason why Enzo is keeping his son far away. “I think his dad is in his ear and his dad's still shaking from the beating his fighter took. I think he's still shaking the cobwebs right now. Boxing for him, thank God for Joe, because his dad’s the one who's behind all this - it ain't Joe," Pavlik says. "It's his dad. His dad is running his mouth and flapping away and his dad doesn't know a left hook from a fishing hook." source - - - Kelly Pavlik: "No Surprise if Roy Jones Beats Joe Calzaghe" __________________ Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone

10-18-2008, 08:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
ulster86 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 519	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV I think Hopkins could win this by SD if he doesn't gas like he did against Calzaghe. Pavlik should take this on workrate and determination though. If he drops in those two areas Hopkins wins, without question. __________________

10-27-2008, 10:51 AM	#37 (permalink)
KoolKid Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 43	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV i noticed you didnt mention Joe Cal should retire or he will be called a journey man. Thats cuz he still has more to prove unlike RJJ and B-hop. He is just as old as RJJ but hasnt come close to accomplishing what he has done. Nor has he fought the great fighters Jones has fought. Which is a shame cuz Joe needs a test but it seems like there arent any shining stars that just jump to mind when you think who would give joe a good fight were he will get respect. People rubbish joe and say he isn't that good cause he gives them the truth to say that. he needs to fight some light heavyweights and get in the mix of things. then he would gain respect and could silence the doughters but he doesn't do that. He needs to stop fighting old guys who you can't even beat up but just win on work rate. Just when people know who he is, he is ready for retirement. I havent got a problem with Joe but i wont to see more from him. After he fighst Jones his record will only have 3 worthy fighters worth mentioning on there and thats the last three go have a look at Jones or Hopkins record its like a celebrity boxing register. Hopkins says it him self he is under rated he is one f the best a legend of his era but people dont put him in there top 5 or 10. shame on you people ('shaking my head in shame') __________________ The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.