Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV - Page 3 - FightGame Boxing & MMA Forums News & Discussion

**NFFC** · 08-11-2008, 05:00 AM

I don't see how Hopkins has more to lose - Pavlik is the undefeated superster who is supposed to win - like Cotto a couple of weeks ago. Hopkins always has the age excuse.

**the_godslayer** · 08-11-2008, 05:03 AM

Hopkins wont use age as an excuse himself though, that will be his fans when Pavlik beats him down .. .he even says that for a 50 + fight fighter he is fresh .... its strange how he is being so respectful of Kelly though... most unusual for BHop.

**NFFC** · 08-11-2008, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the_godslayer

Hopkins wont use age as an excuse himself though, that will be his fans when Pavlik beats him down .. .he even says that for a 50 + fight fighter he is fresh .... its strange how he is being so respectful of Kelly though... most unusual for BHop.

I doubt Pavlik beats him down. I think a close decision either way is much more likely. Bhop will make Pavlik fight his fight.

**the_godslayer** · 08-11-2008, 05:34 AM

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I doubt Pavlik beats him down. I think a close decision either way is much more likely. Bhop will make Pavlik fight his fight.

In a way i actually hope BHop gets KO'd in this fight and that the JC and RJJ fight ends up in a double KO.

TBH im bored of these older fighters now. especially BHop and RJJ ... they bring PAST victories to the table and ring experience but if they keep fighting they will just end up being classed as journey men.
I want to see fresh blood and people like Tavoris Cloud, David Haye etc etc etc .... you know what i mean? young hungry fighters with everything on the line.

T-97 · 08-11-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by the_godslayer

Hopkins wont use age as an excuse himself though, that will be his fans when Pavlik beats him down .. .he even says that for a 50 + fight fighter he is fresh .... its strange how he is being so respectful of Kelly though... most unusual for BHop.

I think he knows that he has a real chance at beating Kelly. And for some reason, I think he respects Kelly for the way he fights. The way he is coming to fight, not to run, not to hide. And he beat Taylor who beat Hopkins.

Now, Some may think i am biased with this. But I think Hopkins is gunna take it, on points. I really do. I am going to do a type up of why i think so sometime soon.

**NFFC** · 08-13-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the_godslayer

In a way i actually hope BHop gets KO'd in this fight and that the JC and RJJ fight ends up in a double KO.

TBH im bored of these older fighters now. especially BHop and RJJ ... they bring PAST victories to the table and ring experience but if they keep fighting they will just end up being classed as journey men.
I want to see fresh blood and people like Tavoris Cloud, David Haye etc etc etc .... you know what i mean? young hungry fighters with everything on the line.

Hopkins won't be able to go on much longer. He has one or maybe two fights left in him, then that's it.

**NFFC** · 08-14-2008, 12:39 PM

YouTube - Kelly Pavlik talks about fighting Bernard Hopkins

Looks like a 10 rounder.

**NFFC** · 08-14-2008, 12:42 PM

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YouTube - Kelly Pavlik talks about fighting Bernard Hopkins

Looks like a 10 rounder.

Don't see how a PPV headliner can be 10 rounds. Shows no value for money.

**the_godslayer** · 08-15-2008, 12:52 PM

Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will KO Hopkins

Ever since it was announced that Kelly Pavlik was going to meet Bernard Hopkins, I've felt that this would be a tough fight for Kelly. I still do. I've really thought about this fight. I've tried to break it down to its likely conclusion. Here goes...

Pavlik depends on pressure. He applies it from the opening bell until the end. Bernard is famous for his stalling tactics but he will find Kelly a hard man to discourage. In a nut shell, Pavlik will not dance to Bernard's tune. Kelly will set and dictate the pace of this fight. This is not good news for Bernard's aging legs and often weary arms. To Hopkins credit he is a crafty old coot. He will have a plan B.

One of Bernard's best assets is his counter punching ability. He is a very cunning fighter. Kelly likes to work behind his jab and then throw long, lethal rights to the head and body. He likes to get full extension on that right to generate maximum power. When Kelly wings the right he is not in the best position to defend himself. Hopkins has a great counter left hook and Pavlik may be opening the door for Hopkins to land it. To me this is Bernard's best chance to win the fight. Possibly the only chance.

It will not surprise me if Hopkins puts Pavlik down somewhere in the first five or six rounds. It also won't surprise me when Kelly gets back up. What will surprise Hopkins is the great tenacity of the young man he is fighting. I feel Kelly will have a slight lead over the first half of the fight because of his work rate. I do expect Bernard to have his moments though.

As we get into the second half of the fight the momentum will change at an accelerated rate. You have all heard the adage "a fighter can grow old overnight." By this point of the battle Bernard will begin to feel the effects of the pressure. Pavlik is not shy about going to the body and it will be around this time that those thunderous body blows in the earlier rounds sap the spring in Bernard's time worn legs. His arms will no longer obey his command to throw combinations. A one punch at a time output is a bad recipe when facing a youthful gunslinger like Pavlik. Hopkins will begin to take inhuman punishment. His great pride will not allow him to fall. Either pride will finally be overpowered or a merciful referee will step in. Succumb he will to the young lion before him. On this night, one legend will end and another will begin.

source - - - What If - Oscar de la Hoya vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. this Cinco de Mayo; Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will Still KO Hopkins

**NFFC** · 08-15-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the_godslayer

Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will KO Hopkins

Ever since it was announced that Kelly Pavlik was going to meet Bernard Hopkins, I've felt that this would be a tough fight for Kelly. I still do. I've really thought about this fight. I've tried to break it down to its likely conclusion. Here goes...

Pavlik depends on pressure. He applies it from the opening bell until the end. Bernard is famous for his stalling tactics but he will find Kelly a hard man to discourage. In a nut shell, Pavlik will not dance to Bernard's tune. Kelly will set and dictate the pace of this fight. This is not good news for Bernard's aging legs and often weary arms. To Hopkins credit he is a crafty old coot. He will have a plan B.

One of Bernard's best assets is his counter punching ability. He is a very cunning fighter. Kelly likes to work behind his jab and then throw long, lethal rights to the head and body. He likes to get full extension on that right to generate maximum power. When Kelly wings the right he is not in the best position to defend himself. Hopkins has a great counter left hook and Pavlik may be opening the door for Hopkins to land it. To me this is Bernard's best chance to win the fight. Possibly the only chance.

It will not surprise me if Hopkins puts Pavlik down somewhere in the first five or six rounds. It also won't surprise me when Kelly gets back up. What will surprise Hopkins is the great tenacity of the young man he is fighting. I feel Kelly will have a slight lead over the first half of the fight because of his work rate. I do expect Bernard to have his moments though.

As we get into the second half of the fight the momentum will change at an accelerated rate. You have all heard the adage "a fighter can grow old overnight." By this point of the battle Bernard will begin to feel the effects of the pressure. Pavlik is not shy about going to the body and it will be around this time that those thunderous body blows in the earlier rounds sap the spring in Bernard's time worn legs. His arms will no longer obey his command to throw combinations. A one punch at a time output is a bad recipe when facing a youthful gunslinger like Pavlik. Hopkins will begin to take inhuman punishment. His great pride will not allow him to fall. Either pride will finally be overpowered or a merciful referee will step in. Succumb he will to the young lion before him. On this night, one legend will end and another will begin.

source - - - What If - Oscar de la Hoya vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. this Cinco de Mayo; Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will Still KO Hopkins

It was the first article that I read

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View Poll Results: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - Who wins?
Pavlik TKO/KO	2	33.33%
Pavlik UD	2	33.33%
Pavlik SD	1	16.67%
Hopkins SD	1	16.67%
Hopkins UD	0	0%
Hopkins TKO/KO	0	0%
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08-11-2008, 05:00 AM	#21 (permalink)
NFFC Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 2,471	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV I don't see how Hopkins has more to lose - Pavlik is the undefeated superster who is supposed to win - like Cotto a couple of weeks ago. Hopkins always has the age excuse. __________________ Oscar De la Hoya: Legend ..

08-11-2008, 05:03 AM	#22 (permalink)
the_godslayer Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 982	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV Hopkins wont use age as an excuse himself though, that will be his fans when Pavlik beats him down .. .he even says that for a 50 + fight fighter he is fresh .... its strange how he is being so respectful of Kelly though... most unusual for BHop. __________________ Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone

08-14-2008, 12:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
NFFC Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 2,471	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV YouTube - Kelly Pavlik talks about fighting Bernard Hopkins Looks like a 10 rounder. __________________ Oscar De la Hoya: Legend ..

08-15-2008, 12:52 PM	#29 (permalink)
the_godslayer Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 982	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs. Bernard Hopkins - 10/18/08 - HBO PPV Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will KO Hopkins Ever since it was announced that Kelly Pavlik was going to meet Bernard Hopkins, I've felt that this would be a tough fight for Kelly. I still do. I've really thought about this fight. I've tried to break it down to its likely conclusion. Here goes... Pavlik depends on pressure. He applies it from the opening bell until the end. Bernard is famous for his stalling tactics but he will find Kelly a hard man to discourage. In a nut shell, Pavlik will not dance to Bernard's tune. Kelly will set and dictate the pace of this fight. This is not good news for Bernard's aging legs and often weary arms. To Hopkins credit he is a crafty old coot. He will have a plan B. One of Bernard's best assets is his counter punching ability. He is a very cunning fighter. Kelly likes to work behind his jab and then throw long, lethal rights to the head and body. He likes to get full extension on that right to generate maximum power. When Kelly wings the right he is not in the best position to defend himself. Hopkins has a great counter left hook and Pavlik may be opening the door for Hopkins to land it. To me this is Bernard's best chance to win the fight. Possibly the only chance. It will not surprise me if Hopkins puts Pavlik down somewhere in the first five or six rounds. It also won't surprise me when Kelly gets back up. What will surprise Hopkins is the great tenacity of the young man he is fighting. I feel Kelly will have a slight lead over the first half of the fight because of his work rate. I do expect Bernard to have his moments though. As we get into the second half of the fight the momentum will change at an accelerated rate. You have all heard the adage "a fighter can grow old overnight." By this point of the battle Bernard will begin to feel the effects of the pressure. Pavlik is not shy about going to the body and it will be around this time that those thunderous body blows in the earlier rounds sap the spring in Bernard's time worn legs. His arms will no longer obey his command to throw combinations. A one punch at a time output is a bad recipe when facing a youthful gunslinger like Pavlik. Hopkins will begin to take inhuman punishment. His great pride will not allow him to fall. Either pride will finally be overpowered or a merciful referee will step in. Succumb he will to the young lion before him. On this night, one legend will end and another will begin. source - - - What If - Oscar de la Hoya vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. this Cinco de Mayo; Pavlik May Kiss The Canvas But He Will Still KO Hopkins __________________ Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone