Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. - FightGame Boxing Forums News & Discussion

**TommyGunn** · 07-18-2008, 03:26 PM

What was once thought to be a video game fantasy now has the potentials of becoming a reality.

Hall-of-Fame promoter Bob Arum disclosed in a Philippine radio interview Friday morning that initial talks have begun to stage an Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao before the end of the year.

Arum was the main guest of the daily morning radio show “Sports Chat” aired over DZSR 918kHz hosted by this writer where the astute promoter openly talked about the intriguing match-up.

Arum revealed he had discussions with Golden Boy Promotions people and that De La Hoya is looking at four names to choose from for his farewell fight and these are Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Felix Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao.

Arum said Mayweather, Jr., because of his recent retirement and Trinidad, because of his huge weight, are so far out of the picture.

“That leaves two fighters for Oscar to fight on December 6, Miguel Cotto who is fighting next week against Antonio Margarito and Manny Pacquiao,” said Arum “Let’s be very practical about it. At this particular point, Oscar De La Hoya has one more fight left in his illustrious career and that‘s December the 6th.

Arum said he will discuss everything with Pacquiao as soon as the Filipino four-division world champion arrives in Las Vegas next weekend to watch the Cotto-Margarito fight.

“The decision that has to be made by Manny Pacquiao is, number one, if Oscar decides he would like to fight, whether Manny feels that is a winnable fight because Oscar is bigger and secondly whether the financial remunerations are appropriate,” said Arum.

“Until I sit with Manny and find out Manny’s financial demands and find out what percentage the revenue we can get from a De La Hoya-Pacquiao fight everything is really premature. The point is that we are not discarding our other options as this whole process goes on.”

Arum agrees with Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach that the fight must be done in the welterweight limit of 147. The well-known promoter added that the weight will not be an issue for De La Hoya, his one-time prized fighter.

“I don’t think that would be a problem, as far as Oscar coming down to 147. That is based on my preliminary discussions, that won’t be a problem. In other words if he fought Cotto, if he fought Pacquiao we would do it at welterweight,” added Arum.

Arum at the same time dismissed reports of bitterness between him and De La Hoya in the same show which also included broadcaster Ronnie Nathanielsz as guest co-host.

“That is not true, Oscar is a businessman there is no truth to as far as making the fight or not making the fight. If it makes sense in making the fight, if it can be done on good economic terms that won’t stop Oscar at all. Trust me,” said Arum “When the contracts are drawn up for the fight, if you are a professional you lose that animosity and maximize the revenue with the promotions.”

Thursday morning in the same show Roach revealed his eagerness of seeing his prized ward go up against De La Hoya.

“When I trained Oscar he was just having trouble pulling the trigger and he’s a little bit slow. If Stevie Forbes can hit him as easily as he did, I know Pacquiao will knock him out,“ said Roach.

Roach said he’s been asking around and learned that De La Hoya can fight at 147-lbs if a real worthy opponent is available at that weight.

“I want Manny to weigh-in 140 pounds and then at fight time he’ll be at 145 he’ll have his power and speed. I just don’t see Oscar handling Manny at this point of their careers,“ revealed Roach “Manny told me he’d love to fight Oscar and Oscar has made it public he’d love to fight Manny and I think it’s a big, big fight.”

Pacquiao, who will turn 30 this December, crowned himself four-division champion when he stopped Mexican-American David Diaz inside eight rounds last month to capture the World Boxing Council (WBC) lightweight crown. In that fight Roach stated his delight in seeing his prized ward use his right hand in spectacular fashion.

“That performance is really what sets me to make that decision (to challenge De La Hoya). Because I’ve been working on Manny’s right hand for a long time. Sometimes it was there a little bit, against (Juan Manuel) Marquez it wasn’t there too much,” added Roach.

NFFC · 07-19-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by C Ronaldo

What was once thought to be a video game fantasy now has the potentials of becoming a reality.

Hall-of-Fame promoter Bob Arum disclosed in a Philippine radio interview Friday morning that initial talks have begun to stage an Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao before the end of the year.

Arum was the main guest of the daily morning radio show “Sports Chat” aired over DZSR 918kHz hosted by this writer where the astute promoter openly talked about the intriguing match-up.

Arum revealed he had discussions with Golden Boy Promotions people and that De La Hoya is looking at four names to choose from for his farewell fight and these are Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Felix Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao.

Arum said Mayweather, Jr., because of his recent retirement and Trinidad, because of his huge weight, are so far out of the picture.

“That leaves two fighters for Oscar to fight on December 6, Miguel Cotto who is fighting next week against Antonio Margarito and Manny Pacquiao,” said Arum “Let’s be very practical about it. At this particular point, Oscar De La Hoya has one more fight left in his illustrious career and that‘s December the 6th.

Arum said he will discuss everything with Pacquiao as soon as the Filipino four-division world champion arrives in Las Vegas next weekend to watch the Cotto-Margarito fight.

“The decision that has to be made by Manny Pacquiao is, number one, if Oscar decides he would like to fight, whether Manny feels that is a winnable fight because Oscar is bigger and secondly whether the financial remunerations are appropriate,” said Arum.

“Until I sit with Manny and find out Manny’s financial demands and find out what percentage the revenue we can get from a De La Hoya-Pacquiao fight everything is really premature. The point is that we are not discarding our other options as this whole process goes on.”

Arum agrees with Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach that the fight must be done in the welterweight limit of 147. The well-known promoter added that the weight will not be an issue for De La Hoya, his one-time prized fighter.

“I don’t think that would be a problem, as far as Oscar coming down to 147. That is based on my preliminary discussions, that won’t be a problem. In other words if he fought Cotto, if he fought Pacquiao we would do it at welterweight,” added Arum.

Arum at the same time dismissed reports of bitterness between him and De La Hoya in the same show which also included broadcaster Ronnie Nathanielsz as guest co-host.

“That is not true, Oscar is a businessman there is no truth to as far as making the fight or not making the fight. If it makes sense in making the fight, if it can be done on good economic terms that won’t stop Oscar at all. Trust me,” said Arum “When the contracts are drawn up for the fight, if you are a professional you lose that animosity and maximize the revenue with the promotions.”

Thursday morning in the same show Roach revealed his eagerness of seeing his prized ward go up against De La Hoya.

“When I trained Oscar he was just having trouble pulling the trigger and he’s a little bit slow. If Stevie Forbes can hit him as easily as he did, I know Pacquiao will knock him out,“ said Roach.

Roach said he’s been asking around and learned that De La Hoya can fight at 147-lbs if a real worthy opponent is available at that weight.

“I want Manny to weigh-in 140 pounds and then at fight time he’ll be at 145 he’ll have his power and speed. I just don’t see Oscar handling Manny at this point of their careers,“ revealed Roach “Manny told me he’d love to fight Oscar and Oscar has made it public he’d love to fight Manny and I think it’s a big, big fight.”

Pacquiao, who will turn 30 this December, crowned himself four-division champion when he stopped Mexican-American David Diaz inside eight rounds last month to capture the World Boxing Council (WBC) lightweight crown. In that fight Roach stated his delight in seeing his prized ward use his right hand in spectacular fashion.

“That performance is really what sets me to make that decision (to challenge De La Hoya). Because I’ve been working on Manny’s right hand for a long time. Sometimes it was there a little bit, against (Juan Manuel) Marquez it wasn’t there too much,” added Roach.

I think at 147 Pacquiao may have a chance as DLH will be drained. IMO he can't make 147 anymore. Over 147 DLH beats him comfortably IMO.

**TommyGunn** · 07-19-2008, 04:14 PM

Im hearing 150 catchweight Callam. Pacman should not be that high!

NFFC · 07-19-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by C Ronaldo

Im hearing 150 catchweight Callam. Pacman should not be that high!

If it is Oscar's last fight I hope he beats Manny up real bad. I don't really want this fight to happen tbh because then Hatton won't look as good beating Manny, the haters will just say he beat a shot Pacman

E-DUBB · 07-19-2008, 10:32 PM

i dont think this is a smart fight for manny either...i know manny has looked great at jr.lightweight and now lightweight,but oscar has been fighting at jr. middleweight since 2001...hes also fought 2 full fledged middleweights...if they fight at 150 lbs i dont see manny doing any real damage to oscar,but i can see oscar putting major hurt on manny...now i know freddy roach says that oscar just couldnt get off the way he wanted when he was training him,but that was against floyd mayweather the best defensive fighter in the game...manny isnt exactly known for his stellar defense and his offensive firepower has been against 118-135 pounders...delahoya has been in the ring with shane mosley,felix trinidad,fernando vargas and bernard hopkins who are all physically stronger and harder punchers at those weights than manny will ever be...in my opinion manny should just stay at lightweight as there are alot of good fighters at that weightclass he can compete against...juan diaz,nate campbell,casamyor,marquez,katsidsis it isnt a given manny would beat any of those guys...he must remember he just beat david diaz whos only claim to fame is beating a washed up erik morales in a fight where el terrible had his moments...manny is in over his head with a true jr. middleweight like delahoya...

**TommyGunn** · 07-19-2008, 10:56 PM

Oh i agree 100%.

The higher Pac goes the more they water down his power. I see him cutting Oscar up much like Forbes done because of the speed but Oscars power is just going to be to much.

So much for Arum saying Pacman goes no higher than 140. Money talks here!

**Ninja** · 07-24-2008, 11:13 PM

This fight is starting to look like a reality

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NFFC · 07-25-2008, 03:44 AM

No sense in this fight

DLH-Cotto would be a much better fight

**Ninja** · 07-25-2008, 04:16 AM

Oscar will look like a king if he KOs Pac, like he should. But everybody knows this fight is all about the money. It should draw huge PPV buys.

**TommyGunn** · 07-25-2008, 05:04 AM

This fight could do 1.5m buys easily.

07-18-2008, 03:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,146	Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. What was once thought to be a video game fantasy now has the potentials of becoming a reality. Hall-of-Fame promoter Bob Arum disclosed in a Philippine radio interview Friday morning that initial talks have begun to stage an Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao before the end of the year. Arum was the main guest of the daily morning radio show “Sports Chat” aired over DZSR 918kHz hosted by this writer where the astute promoter openly talked about the intriguing match-up. Arum revealed he had discussions with Golden Boy Promotions people and that De La Hoya is looking at four names to choose from for his farewell fight and these are Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Felix Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao. Arum said Mayweather, Jr., because of his recent retirement and Trinidad, because of his huge weight, are so far out of the picture. “That leaves two fighters for Oscar to fight on December 6, Miguel Cotto who is fighting next week against Antonio Margarito and Manny Pacquiao,” said Arum “Let’s be very practical about it. At this particular point, Oscar De La Hoya has one more fight left in his illustrious career and that‘s December the 6th. Arum said he will discuss everything with Pacquiao as soon as the Filipino four-division world champion arrives in Las Vegas next weekend to watch the Cotto-Margarito fight. “The decision that has to be made by Manny Pacquiao is, number one, if Oscar decides he would like to fight, whether Manny feels that is a winnable fight because Oscar is bigger and secondly whether the financial remunerations are appropriate,” said Arum. “Until I sit with Manny and find out Manny’s financial demands and find out what percentage the revenue we can get from a De La Hoya-Pacquiao fight everything is really premature. The point is that we are not discarding our other options as this whole process goes on.” Arum agrees with Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach that the fight must be done in the welterweight limit of 147. The well-known promoter added that the weight will not be an issue for De La Hoya, his one-time prized fighter. “I don’t think that would be a problem, as far as Oscar coming down to 147. That is based on my preliminary discussions, that won’t be a problem. In other words if he fought Cotto, if he fought Pacquiao we would do it at welterweight,” added Arum. Arum at the same time dismissed reports of bitterness between him and De La Hoya in the same show which also included broadcaster Ronnie Nathanielsz as guest co-host. “That is not true, Oscar is a businessman there is no truth to as far as making the fight or not making the fight. If it makes sense in making the fight, if it can be done on good economic terms that won’t stop Oscar at all. Trust me,” said Arum “When the contracts are drawn up for the fight, if you are a professional you lose that animosity and maximize the revenue with the promotions.” Thursday morning in the same show Roach revealed his eagerness of seeing his prized ward go up against De La Hoya. “When I trained Oscar he was just having trouble pulling the trigger and he’s a little bit slow. If Stevie Forbes can hit him as easily as he did, I know Pacquiao will knock him out,“ said Roach. Roach said he’s been asking around and learned that De La Hoya can fight at 147-lbs if a real worthy opponent is available at that weight. “I want Manny to weigh-in 140 pounds and then at fight time he’ll be at 145 he’ll have his power and speed. I just don’t see Oscar handling Manny at this point of their careers,“ revealed Roach “Manny told me he’d love to fight Oscar and Oscar has made it public he’d love to fight Manny and I think it’s a big, big fight.” Pacquiao, who will turn 30 this December, crowned himself four-division champion when he stopped Mexican-American David Diaz inside eight rounds last month to capture the World Boxing Council (WBC) lightweight crown. In that fight Roach stated his delight in seeing his prized ward use his right hand in spectacular fashion. “That performance is really what sets me to make that decision (to challenge De La Hoya). Because I’ve been working on Manny’s right hand for a long time. Sometimes it was there a little bit, against (Juan Manuel) Marquez it wasn’t there too much,” added Roach.

07-19-2008, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
E-DUBB Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 46	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. i dont think this is a smart fight for manny either...i know manny has looked great at jr.lightweight and now lightweight,but oscar has been fighting at jr. middleweight since 2001...hes also fought 2 full fledged middleweights...if they fight at 150 lbs i dont see manny doing any real damage to oscar,but i can see oscar putting major hurt on manny...now i know freddy roach says that oscar just couldnt get off the way he wanted when he was training him,but that was against floyd mayweather the best defensive fighter in the game...manny isnt exactly known for his stellar defense and his offensive firepower has been against 118-135 pounders...delahoya has been in the ring with shane mosley,felix trinidad,fernando vargas and bernard hopkins who are all physically stronger and harder punchers at those weights than manny will ever be...in my opinion manny should just stay at lightweight as there are alot of good fighters at that weightclass he can compete against...juan diaz,nate campbell,casamyor,marquez,katsidsis it isnt a given manny would beat any of those guys...he must remember he just beat david diaz whos only claim to fame is beating a washed up erik morales in a fight where el terrible had his moments...manny is in over his head with a true jr. middleweight like delahoya...

07-19-2008, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,146	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. Oh i agree 100%. The higher Pac goes the more they water down his power. I see him cutting Oscar up much like Forbes done because of the speed but Oscars power is just going to be to much. So much for Arum saying Pacman goes no higher than 140. Money talks here!

07-24-2008, 11:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ninja Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 440	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. This fight is starting to look like a reality .

07-25-2008, 03:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
NFFC Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 1,338	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. No sense in this fight DLH-Cotto would be a much better fight

07-19-2008, 04:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,146	Im hearing 150 catchweight Callam. Pacman should not be that high!

07-25-2008, 04:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ninja Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 440	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. Oscar will look like a king if he KOs Pac, like he should. But everybody knows this fight is all about the money. It should draw huge PPV buys.

07-25-2008, 05:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
TommyGunn Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,146	Re: Arum says Pacquiao vs De La Hota is a reality. This fight could do 1.5m buys easily.